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     Mark (Mark) |
I talked with WHAN this week and their tower is being structured so that they can blanket Richmond. Even though it's still 1000w day & night, it will reach a 25-mile radius. Of course, I tried to sell O&A to him lol. No, I asked him about the show. He said he was very familiar with them, and he said it is a possibility. Don & Mike aren't going anywhere. I've heard those CC rumors too, but more than likely, D&M will see that they would do much better at WW1 than Premiere. The only way I see a D&M/Premiere thing working is if: -Dr. Laura gets the boot (she is beginning to fail in key markets)and gets replaced with D&M, which more than likely means a D&M move to WTNT AM-570 in DC, a 5000 watt station that holds another guy that was ousted from JFK, G. Gordon Liddy. But I don't think D&M want to leave JFK or WW1/Infinity that bad. I see D&M working in NY and in Philly only if WNEW gets re-tooled (I know this isn't Richmond radio, but bear with me). WNEW would work with this lineup: 6-11am: HOWARD STERN (major mass media campaign announcing Stern's switch to 'NEW) 11am-3pm: DON & MIKE (I think those two would kill Rush) 3-7pm: OPIE & ANTHONY (Already proven in NYC and many other markets) 7-11pm: RON & FEZ (New Yorkers can have them, there voices are just...ugh!) 11pm-1am: LATENIGHTS WITH FERALL (I think this guy could hold his own late at night) 1-3am: LOVELINE (it would get the West Coast live feed) 3-6am: JOHN & JEFF (out of KLSX/LA...filler) Replace Stern at 'NEW with Kramer & Twitch out of Infinity's Detroit FM Talker. Back to Richmond... Don & Mike and Opie & Anthony need to realize that they need each other in a way. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Mark--Thanks for the thoughtful posts. I don't mind the non-Richmond digressions, personally, because Richmond radio is so ... blah. Your last post was particularly fascinating, but I'll try to keep my questions somewhat related to Richmond. --You're right, it would be pretty humbling for D&M to move all the way back to a zippo lighter AM station in their home market; I was thinking if they went to CC they'd get a gig on something like DC101 (and, by syndication, Richmond's similar XL102) in PM drive. Although I've taken Contracts, I'm not versed on entertainment law and don't really know how a non-compete contract works in radio; would it foreclose D&M from competing with an Infinity talker in its former time slot? --More locally, are you implying WHAN is trying to increase its presence in Richmond, rather than billing itself as "Hanover's own" or whatever? Will it actually have a website at some point? --Did the fellow at WHAN indicate it was a "possibility" to run O & A live (thus, moving D & M live as well)? I can't recall really, I think they play Dr. Joy Brown (?) middays... | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
On your Hanover's own question: -All he said about the new stick was that it will reach a 25-mile radius. I will ask him today if it will move away from the "Hanover's Own" feel of WHAN. -Also, he said that Don & Mike is a very large part of the reason him putting up the new tower, and he says most of the callers are in the 18-44 demo. -He said he wanted to carry the Junks, but I informed him that 1) WLEE used to carry them and 2) they just ceased syndication. I can get into Don & Mike on some occasions, and I have no problem with them. I just like to be entertained. They do their job of entertaining sometimes, sometimes they fall short of that mark. O&A and the Junkies on most occasions don't fall short. Most of Ant's impresions are dead-on. Opie serves as the moderator and does add something to the show: leadership. Howard Stern has the ability to talk to you, not at you. He's a great storyteller. Some people think once shock value wore off, the show would stink. If he did bits back-to-back like O&A, it would get old. O&A need to realize that. D&M need to do more bits. | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
Thor thanks you so much for talking about a hanover County Radio station. Maybe next post, you two morons can discuss the benefits of the little hand made transmitters you can buy at Radio Shack. Thor looks forward to that discussion. Thor has spoken, Thor is wise, Thor is brave, Thor is nuts. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
And thank you so much for posting the ratings. If they hadn't been on the vartv site for almost a week now, they would have been interesting. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Thor is the very reason the credibility of this board died. There were posts from Jim Jacobs, Travis Dylan, David Lee Michaels, and more until this poison showed up. | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
Thor thinks Mark must be a democrat. Always blaming someone else and not taking his own responsibility. This board died due to the lack of creativity in the business. While dweebs like you wanted to talk about hanover Radio stations, Knowledgable radio people like Thor, John Staton, Betty Bodine, Bobba Lou (God rest his soul) and others wanted the best brought out for the business. It was people like you who chose to only talk about Thor and not about how things could get better that caused the demise of the board. This board is a reflection of the times boy, The passion has gone out of the business, it is only a matter of time before radio has we know it dies too. Thor has spoken, Thor is brave, Thor is wise, Thor like the new listerine strips. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Well, I was beginning to doubt this discussion board, but it's comforting to know that at least it has the much-needed Troll (tm) role filled. Thanks, Thor. On another note, I read an article yesterday saying Bill O'Reilly's radio show won't last the year. What would WLEE do in that case? My vote would be to add on Kornheiser's last hour, or run three hours of Liddy--but either way, put Jim Jacobs back in the 3-6 hole. On a similar note, I think WLEE is running with the "alternative to corporate radio" ball a bit much; it did lop off an hour of its local drive show in favor of national syndication, after all. If 1480 goes ESPN Radio, like you predicted Mark, I certainly hope it doesn't run the _entire_ lineup; either lure Big Al back to a more appropriate all-sports station, or bring in a fresh voice to do afternoon drive with a more local angle than 910. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Yeah, Mike Maniscalco tries too hard. He's just not cutting it. I only listen to Bruno & Rome, and turn away from 910 to 990 when Kornheiser's on. I'd hope their tag would be "ESPN Radio 1480", but with local shows. Big Al would do mornings there and have someone local do SportsCenter at :20, :40, and top of the hour. And since Bob Black is somehow already affiliated with 4M, have him do afternoons 4 to 7pm. The guy at WHAN said the new signal should be up in 2 months. After the stick is up, he said he would contemplate upping D&M to 11-3 live and O&A to 3-7. He said he doesn't know yet, his main focus is the signal right now. Also on a side note, WRVA's top of the hour news reports (when they are live and local) are a carbon copy of WBT's top-of-the-hour reports. Until recently, WRVA & WBT shared the same VO guy (who is damn good), but 'RVA dropped him for another plain-sounding VO guy. They both say for example "are next news is at 10 right ahead of (enter personality here), breaking news as it happens." And finally, who has heard Michael Savage? You can hear him at night on 77 WABC out of NY. Why won't someone have the balls to pick him up here? WRVA quickly dropped Phil Hendrie last year. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Bruno's not bad. I can't recall if Kornheiser's start at WTEM in the early 90's was premised on ripping off Bruno's Philly show, or vice versa, but they're really similar shows. From my experience in DC, I like Bruno's sidekick _much_ more than Andy Pollin. OTOH, Kornheiser has openly said his show is a sports-version of Imus, a show which I like and listen to quite often. I think WHAN going "extreme talk" or whatever they call it these days would be cool. I passed through VA Beach recently and really liked their 1450. I'd even try to catch an hour of O&A once in a while, just for kicks. It's too bad the Junks lost their syndication, imho, they'd fit in well on such a station, as they do on 'JFK. I can't tell if you meant to say this, but WRVA _did_ run Savage (Nation ?) until dropping it last fall when Glenn Beck (who's OK, too...much...dead...air...) got picked up and the good doctress got moved to tape delay. I rather like Phil Hendrie, but didn't care much for Savage. If a talker's going to be really right-wing, I say, he should be entertaining, like Liddy. Savage was outrageous, but mostly because he seemed really mad all the time. | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
While everyone is talking about low powered radio that no one cares about or listens to, let's discuss The University of Richmond station WDCE. Isn't it amazing how they are only at 100 watts. Maybe they'll drop alternative one day and go country. Maybe they should run alternative only at night, what do you think, Thor would like to know. Thor has spoken, thor is wise, thor is brave, Thor will visit Radio Shack this weekend and build her own radio. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
No, let's discuss the NHL Finals on ABC. That's something no one cares about or tunes in to. Say, Thor, if you're going to Radio Shack, how 'bout if we give you a couple bucks for you to buy some battery acid. Then why don't you drink it. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
Shows what you know 'Chaser. Where do you think they get battery acid from? It's like harvesting Maple Syrup, they stick a tube in Thor's leg and she oozes enormous vats of it. Her problem is that she is too old and bitter to remember being young and idealistic; and being on the air for the first time. I've been enjoying the discussion about the talk personalities. Please continue. Weren't D&M on a different AM station here in Richmond circa 1994 or 1995? | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Well, thanks Lucas. Being relatively new to this board, I never imagined Thor was a she; I simply assumed Thor was rather like "Mo the bartender" from "The Simpsons" or something. My mistake. Re: D&M, yes, they were on none other than 910 for a (short) time. It was in iirc 1996, when WRNL became WRVH. I wasn't living here at the time; they were on when I visited that fall, off by Christmas-time. It was part of a big overhaul of the lineup, including iirc, replacing the "Sports Huddle" w/ D&M. Someone correct me if this is wrong, but it seems like Infinity or an illegitimate cousin of Infinity owned the station at the time, b/c much of its lineup (Liddy, D&M, Ferrall on the Bench) was straight out of WJFK. While I had long since discovered D&M, I remember thinking 910 was a really strange fit for the show. It seemed 910 half-a'd it, anyway; Big Al was still on in the mornings, and I think "The Fabulous SportsBabe" (false advertising) led into D&M. Liddy wasn't sports, but at least it fed into the sensibility of sports fans here, I presume. Ferrall stuck around here for at least another year. Only D&M stuck out like a sore thumb, plus it replaced a (relatively) popular show. Plus, Stern had just left the market, and D&M is (superficially at least) like Stern. So, from afar, it looked obvious to me that D&M weren't going to be on long. I think there's a market for them here, though. Anecdotally, I've had conversations with more than a handful of people who liked them from other cities, but had no idea of WHAN's existence. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
I was catching D&M on 'JFK in '96. As I recall D&M (supposedly) pulled their own plug here in Richmond, for some reason. They called the GM and argued with him on the air about something. I was working and missed most of it. I miss Ferell "on da bench." "How can I be the man when you're the man?" "Whatta ya havin'?" Sports and Metallica and even better when you're watching the same sporting event he's watching while he's on the air. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Well, that certainly sounds like D&M.... 'JFK had a really good lineup back then: Stern/Liddy/D&M/Greaseman/Ferrell, with the Junkies on the weekends. Liddy's fun in doses, never got into the Greaseman (good thing, as it turned out...), but the rest was gold. I remember my friend got on Ferrell one night, got the "beer pouring" sound from him, the whole works. The whole thing was like a more laid back Jim Rome, but without the clones. Anyway, I guess he dropped out in favor of the Junks, which was still a good trade; too bad WW1 dropped their syndication too. | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
Lucas, Thor is glad to see you are still around, with all of the jocks looking for a gig, its amazing you are still around. Way to go Lucas. Thor has spoken, Thor is wise, Thor is brave, Thor likes WaWa gas | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
I got a 2 minute air-check of the Grease in the mid 80's from National Aircheck that completely changed my approach to radio. I had never heard an entire Greaseman show until his stint in California; when he was taped and run at 7pm on 'JFK. I was really dissapointed in how narrow his subject matter was. I can really only stand about 1 "brown star" joke every couple of weeks or so. And while I don't think he personally is a bigot, he has made his career here in the south pandering to that faction of white males. It's what made him a legend, but also, what has held him back. (what is it about racists and butt jokes) I'm sure his pairing with a black woman for syndication was intentional on the part of Infinity to make him more aware of what he was saying; but Infinity should have paired him with a more intelligent and articulate black woman. I don't remember what her name was. I think I bought a bottle of Iced Tea from her at WaWa last night. She was awful. She was often late or unprepared, and she didn't understand the big words he used; which really slowed the show down. When that relationship didn't pan out, they unplugged him and shipped him back to the classic rock station in D.C.; where he made his totally inexcusable "...that's why they drag them behind pick-ups..." comment. Having said all that Doug Tracht (real name) is capable of shear genious. His ability to tell a joke and storytell using sound effects and multiple music beds is unmatched in radio. He is very well educated, and when he's not hung over, extremely quick witted. He seems to have some issues. If he can get himself together and broaden his perspective, he might broaden his appeal and stage a come back. Of course, I'm a "romantic." I WANT to believe that "the brilliant perfomer" will over come his obstacles and reach his potential. But this point, it remains to be seen. I know he was on in Roanoke at one time, but don't know that he was ever on in Richmond. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Tract/"Grease" has already staged a "comeback" of sorts; about a year-and-a-half ago or so, he started leasing time from a NoVa "Vietnamese station" (as D&M kept calling it) during mornings. D&M were rather unmerciful about how humiliating it was; the way they described it, some DJ speaking Vietnamese would be on, then without warning, the Greaseman would do his thing, then a couple hours later it would be back to Vietnamese. I never tried tuning in to that station to see if that's what it was really. D&M said a few months ago that he's now doing the show out of his living room on the internet. One of the reasons I'm not particularly fond of the Greaseman (other than his way-inexcusable "slip up," as he called it) is that his "contrition period" launched perhaps the worst talk show in recent memory, "Time Out With Thompson" (now called just "The John Thompson Show") on SportsTalk 980 WTEM in DC. Thompson had just retired from coaching at Georgetown, and he was mulling his options about what was next. Someone came up with the wonderful idea of letting Thompson absolutely rip into a seemingly repentant Greaseman. If it wasn't so contrived, it would have felt powerful. Except it was so contrived. At the end, Thompson announced to the effect of, "I won't call you Greaseman, I'm calling you Doug, because the Greaseman is dead." Yeah, right. It was pretty big for SportsTalk 980, though. They reaired it throughout the day; it was perhaps the only time more than 50 people tuned into 980 at one time. Well, imagine the most unprepared and uninterested sports talk host, and you've got Thompson. I admire him because I believe he is a man who stands up for issues he believes important and does not waver, but his show has been clogging up PM drive on that station for 3 years now. And I thought Maniscalco was bad... Thanks for picking up in the discussion, Lucas. You're pretty fascinating for a (I think) Clear Channel guy.  | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
I caught the Grease for a while while he was on the AM station and loading his show on the internet, but the browser they made you use to listen at the site be came too problematic, and I eventually gave up. He was paying 25 grand rent for that little AM studio. Heard a great live radio blooper though. He did a bit with some lady and kicked into music. But he forgot to take the pot out. Over the song, he exchanged some pleasantries with the lady, then called a potential client. He gave his whole sales pitch for the world (or may be 50 people) to hear. I guess he forgot about that when he up loaded it to the internet. He sounded a little fresher when he was being topical or taking calls. And someone produced some new "Grease" song parodies (sounded like John Frost). But a lot of it was the same old thing, and his singing really makes him sound out of date. America could really use some Sgt. Fury right now, though. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Seems as though WHAN's new signal may be up already. I'm getting 1430 crystal clear at my home in Midlothian (just in time for a D&M best-of, albeit), when all I usually get is static. Then again, maybe it's just a day with particularly good atmospheric conditions, or whatever... | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
Thor has trends St Format Wi Sp Su 01 Fa01 wi 02Sp'02 P1 Sp'02P2 WTVR-FM AC 9.6 8.5 8.7 11.3 10.0 9.5 9.6 WKHK-FM 7.1 6.4 7.6 6.5 6.8 7.1 8.1 WCDX-FM 12.4 13.0 9.0 7.5 6.5 7.4 7.6 WRVA-AM 7.8 5.2 5.7 6.0 7.0 5.9 5.8 WJMO-FM 3.4 5.1 5.7 5.5 6.1 5.1 5.4 WKLR-FM 4.5 5.3 5.0 6.0 5.2 5.7 5.3 WKJS-FM 4.5 6.4 4.9 5.6 4.2 4.8 5.1 WRVQ-FM 5.8 6.1 6.5 5.4 4.8 5.0 5.1 WBTJ-FM 2.8 3.7 6.0 4.8 4.4 4.8 4.2 WMXB-FM 4.2 4.1 4.3 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.1 WDYL-FM 2.2 3.1 2.8 3.4 3.1 3.5 3.5 WRXL-FM 2.9 4.5 3.4 3.0 3.0 3.0 3.5 WJZV-FM 3.3 2.5 2.8 1.6 2.3 2.1 2.5 WRHH-FM 0.0 1.2 2.1 1.7 2.2 2.2 2.4 WVNZ-AM 0.0 0.0 1.4 1.8 1.8 2.4 2.2 WBBT-FM 1.6 2.1 2.2 2.2 2.2 2.4 1.9 WREJ-AM 0.8 0.8 0.9 0.7 1.2 1.4 1.6 WXGI-AM 1.1 1.1 1.6 1.6 2.0 1.6 1.1 WRNL-AM 2.0 0.8 1.5 1.5 1.3 1.2 1.0 | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
I talked to Bloomquist a while back and I asked him about Hendrie. He said the advertisers wouldn't support it. I now remember Savage being ran. I too enjoyed Hendrie much better than Savage, he was such a great impersonator. And Glenn Beck: his show would be 30 minutes minus dead air. | ||
| Johnny_Young (Johnny_Young) |
Ok, this is a question for all the WRVA history buffs. An old friend of mine passed away and his son gave me a box full of old albums and i found one labeled "WRVA 50th Anniversary" Anyone know anything about it? there are no track listings on it, just a picture of the old Church hill building on the back. It says 1925-1975 A portrait in sound of the past 50 years. I can only assume that the record was made in 1975. Wow, I was 3 years old. It says Lou Dean is the Narrator and Tim Timberlake is mentioned as one of the producers. The album is still sealed so I don't even know what's on it. Can anyone tell me more about this one? | ||
| Frank_Dreben (Frank_Dreben) |
Henry "The Bull" del Toro has passed away, here's a link to more information. http://www.henrythebull.com | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
Thor has historical information. Go to this site and see where your call letters came from http://www.oldradio.com/archives/nelson/origins.html Thor took a lot of time putting this together. Thors fingers are tired. | ||
| Dan_Evans (Dan_Evans) |
Well it has been a while but dan evans BKA internet listener is back online and glad to be in not only this form but also back in the city of richmond va. I see that we have a light version of Howard Stern in town in the form of Dee Snider. Note to Lucas Foxx, although I can not stand your boss, i still think you are a ok guy, just wish that we could instead of having a lighter version of stern we should get the real thing back in town. God Bless all of you and again great to be back. | ||
| Anonymous |
Station Format Owner Sp 2001 Su 2001 Fa 2001 Wi 2002 Sp 2002 WTVR-FM CC 8.5 8.7 11.3 10.0 12.1 WKHK-FM Cox 6.4 7.6 6.5 6.8 8.5 WCDX-FM ROne 13.0 9.0 7.5 6.5 7.0 WJMO-FM ROne 5.1 5.7 5.5 6.1 5.5 WRVA-AM CC 5.2 5.7 6.0 7.0 5.5 | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Unfortunately my friend, that would never happen. Dee Snider is nowhere near the caliber of a Howard Stern, and he's not even a so-called "light" version of him. Light versions of Stern in AM drive would be Bob & Tom, Lex & Terry, Mancow, and one of my favorites, Tommy & Rumble down at FM99 in Norfolk (one of the best Active Rock stations in the country). And one more thing, Richmond needs to have a hard rocker, an active rocker. XL would be that. Cut out all the 70s and 80s re-currents, and have a playlist similar to FM99 (System of A Down, Tool, Tommy Lee, Jerry Cantrell, Godsmack, Chilli Peppers, etc.), and last a good morning show. Either import Bob & Tom in or bring back the King of All Media, or have a good local duo for once. Dee Snider's horrible show needs to be put to rest in Richmond once and for all. I'm pretty sure Hartford wants Dee all to themselves lol. WHAN update: the new stick should be up in 60 days. I'd give them 6 months before they add some more personalities, like Tom Leykis and maybe O&A. The question is: can Richmond handle O&A? Why are we so fragile when it comes to talk shows like Stern, O&A, and even Phil Hendrie? It boggles me, it makes me feel like I'm in a heavily conservative city. Oh I forgot, I am. Anyways, if Stern can make it in South Carolina, then I'm pretty sure he can make it here. Also, I'm noticing I can pick up the Junks on JFK late at night (even though WBTJ comes through just a little). If 'BTJ was at 106.1, then JFK would come through clearly when Stern's and D&M are on and when the Junks are on (I've noticed JFK kinda goes bleak when O&A hit the airwaves). | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
This maybe kinda old, but... Doug "Greaseman" Tracht signed a deal with WGOP DC Radio 700 AM (a new talk radio station in Washington)to do mornings there. WGOP is upgrading their signal to 25kw. WGOP runs alot of Salem's non-Christian talk shows (Gallagher, Prager, Medved), but I think WGOP should run O'Reilly's show, which is stuck on some DC AM rimshot business station. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
And I thought WMAL was already WGOP.... Seeing as WRVA's ratings have apparently skidded again as more time has passed since 9/11/01, maybe they'll mix things up again. Maybe bring Hendrie back on evenings? If he led in to Lionel (which, imho, is the best talk show picked up here in Richmond--intelligent, entertaining, irreverent, the only evidence I see that WRVA still has any kind of soul), I'd listen to 1140 a little more when I have the chance. BTW, after spending a little time in DC, O&A have grown some on me, but I don't think they'd work here unless XL went with the format change you suggested, you know, uh, "edgier." (OTOH, I know you're talking about them on WHAN.) Maybe this is a little biased, but I think on a decent signal the post-NYC Don & Mike would fare better in Richmond; even though they go low brow, they have more of a "local" flavor to their show--very involved with their home town (only 90 miles away) and quite "family oriented," albeit in a strange way. I think that's why they do well in the smaller markets. OTOH, there's been a lot of talk on the dvrtv.com board about how they're progressively getting (and sounding) older than their target audience, so while they'll always be Washington's favorite, maybe they're not the most relevant ambassadors of "adult talk." Stern's getting the same way, though. Dee Snider does suck. Imus on a respirator sitting out in New Mexico is more entertaining. Leykis, I've heard a little on the web through a station that carries a lot of WW1 talent, and he's good. The station is of undetermined location, obviously | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
THIS WAS ON THE VARTV PAGE: "What's going on at Clear Channel Richmond? — 8/1 — From All Access... "Is the format wheel gonna spin in RICHMOND? Is a CLEAR CHANNEL station about to go Country, or Christian?". There were rumors before that a station in Richmond was going to flip to country or Christian (see VARTV news headline April 19, 2002). Here we go again. Last time it was MAYBE rocker 'XL-102' WRXL. CC's Richmond properties are soft AC 'Lite 98' WTVR, 'NewsRadio 1140' WRVA, heritage CHR 'Q-94' WRVQ, urban '106-5 The Beat' WBTJ, WRXL and sports 'SportRadio 910' WRNL. Who's a candidate for a format switch?" It's probably not 1140, Q94, Lite 98 (certainly not), or 106.5, right? WRXL finally showed some gain in the ratings; would this have any effect? From an outsider's perspective, it would seem switching WRNL would be the most reasonable move, since it's the weakling of the CC group and if 1480 goes all-sports, that would just cut into its share all the more. But would CC add music to an AM station? On another note, what happened to WXGI? 2.0 to 0.7. Did the additions of Big Al and the R-Braves turn off its niche listenership? | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
I'd say CC stays as is. WRXL-No way in hell. With a little re-tooling, it will be fine. Problem #1: get rid of that Dee Snider. First of all, he's an alternative morning show on a Rock station. Not even Active Rock! Either get Bob & Tom, or a local duo-type show. WBTJ-Already eating into Power's share. What happened to the 12 and 13 shares Power used to have? Gone, and replaced with a 7-something rating. Who's to blame? 106-5 The Beat, of course. WTVR-The station that did nothing but let WBTJ eat into WCDX's ratings, and slithered their way to the top. It's already happening in New York (Lite FM is king after CC sis Power 105-1 ate into heritage CHUrban legendary Hot 97's share), and it's happening here now. WRVQ-Almost every city has a heritage CHR. Ours is Q, it's not going anywhere. WRVA-No brainer. After all the changes, it's still king of the AM hill, and will be that way for some time. WRNL-I'd say its safe for now. Which format would they go to? Rome & Bruno are the only shows I listen to. JT The Prick is annoying, and Mike Maniscalco is not for me. Hey, at least it's beating WXGI. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Hey Lucas, if you're out there, what do you think about XL102 shifting to Active Rock? It should go Active because you've already got a Classic Rocker on 96-5 (WKLR The Planet) and then an Alternative on 101.1 (WDYL Y101). So what do you do? Play the hardest rock music, like Tommy Lee, Godsmack, System of A Down, Tool, and more artists like that. So what do you think? | ||
| Dan_Evans (Dan_Evans) |
OK first good to know that someone believes in a active rock format. Don't get me wrong I love classic rock, but a mix of classics and active does not work. The best thing XL did is not pick up Flamer and Bitch AKA Kramer and Twitch after they got fired in Dallas. They were wise not to pick up when they moved to Detriot. If John Lassman reads this board he needs to take notes. If you can ditch Dee Snider,bring in someone local or if you want syndication,try Mancow Howard Stern or Bob and Tom. By the way John I am not one of your empolyees,so don't yell at them for something that I am posting on my own free will thanks to the First Amendment. God Bless | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Okay, for someone who's not in the music bizz... What is _active rock_? I know it's not Van Halen/ZZ Topp standards mixed in with new rock, as XL does right now. If I had to guess, I'd guess it's the Limp Bizkit mixed in w/early-mid 90's alternative nostalgia, like Y101. But I guess it's not, since Mark says we need active rock here. Is it roughly akin to what WHFS does nowadays? Maybe it's just a label thing, but I'm confused as to the distinction between active rock, new rock and modern rock, to name a few. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
If you've ever been to Norfolk, check out FM99, the hardest and best active rock station in the state. Is heritage station and has a heritage morning show, a #1 morning show, Norfolk's Bob & Tom, Tommy & Rumble. And before DC101 went Alternative, they were Active Rock. 98Rock in Baltimore is Active Rock. 94WYSP (somehow) is still Active Rock. And XL102 should be Active Rock. I mean for crying out loud, they're sandwiched in between an Alternative Rock station and a Classic Rock station. So, they think the logical thing to do is to please both crowds sort of, but no Alternative, just hard rock and classic rock. How does Stones into System of a Down sound? Crappy! That's why XL needs to just go for Active Rock. Lucas, I know you're out there somewhere, feel free to comment. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
So, basically, active rock is hard rock, but not alternative rock and not rock that involves walkers and Geritol? Thanks for the explanation. I go to Norfolk from time to time, so I'll check out FM99. (Also, there's a rumor out of DC that 94.7 WARW is dropping classic rock for active rock (or Spanish programming...). On another note, WYSP must be like what you mentioned a few months ago you want from 107.3, really hot talk interspersed with active rock. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Yeah, 94WYSP is a rock/talk hybrid station, and its the winning formula. Howard Stern is #1 in all male demos, top 3 overall. Don & Mike is #1 in all male demos, top 10 overall. Opie & Anthony is #1 in all male demos, top 5 overall. And the rock rotation at YSP is still awesome. FM99 is located at 98.7, so don't let the 99 throw you off. To check out FM99 and YSP's playlist, check out AllAccess.com, and look for Mediabase 24-7. Here's the website http://www1.allaccess.com/members/main/mediabase/ Click on 7-Day Reports at the top blue bar, then click on station playlists, and type in the call letters for the station of your choice (ex. WNOR). | ||
| Anonymous |
Y101 is an active rock station. XL102 would be the second in the market, if it flipped to active rock. | ||
| Dan_Evans (Dan_Evans) |
No offense to Lucas, but XL has taken a very serious downfall thanks in part to John Lassman and Cheap Channel. 10 years ago XL was awesome. The morning show was risque at times without alienating the family. The Dj's played music instead of ignorant surveys (BT), and even better Loveline did not exist. I know that the dj's love their jobs, but with a guy like Lassman who one time though my internet listener id was Lucas, it shows how paranoid he is if his way is not there. Note to Lassman...i am not Lucas Foxx or any of clear channel's empolyess. I am a average guy who sees things different than you guys do. God Bless | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
Sorry, I've been gone for a while. Someone pointed out to me that you guys were talking about me so I thought I'd check it out. I've also been checking out the spring book #'s. I haven't seen the break out for everybody, but judging from 7-10p we don't need to go Active Rock. We've got Men AND Persons sewn up buy a 2:1 margin in 21-34, and nearly that in 18-44. 'DYL can have all the 12-18's they want, and 'KLR can keep their 45-74 year olds, I'm not interested. I hope we stick with being a mainstream rocker. There is no reason a mainstream rocker should ever lose to a station that plays all old stuff or all new stuff, unless the jocks are driving them away. Speaking of which: Thanks for the comments. Kramer and Twitch may make a buttload more money than I do (who doesn't), but they'll never get the ratings I get. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Well, Lucas tell us about Dee Snider's ratings? Are they doing well as yours? And whatever happen to XL's plan to bring in Elliot from DC101, as he was supposed to get syndicated way before Dee Snider. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
I don't know about Dee's ratings. I'm told they are good. There never was a plan to bring Elliot in. I'm aware that Elliott thought he was in line for the gig, but I think he was dreaming. He's an Infinity talent. Bubba "the love Sponge," from Florida, was being groomed for CC syndication. I think he may have had a shot, until he gutted a pig live on the radio. An now his biggest corporate supporter, Randy Micheals, has been shifted to the "Technology division." | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Lucas: How is Elliot an Infinity talent? His morning show is on DC 101, which is a Clear Channel station through and through. And his show is superior to Dee Snider Radio by at least a factor of ten. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
I'm sorry. You are correct. I don't know what I was thinking. It's been almost 3 years since we brought them into the fold. I guess I was thinking they were an AMFM station when those rumours started. Elliot does put on a great show. I've heard him a few times while traveling to BWI. What do you suppose is holding him back? | ||
| Dan_Evans (Dan_Evans) |
Lucas a more defining thing about you in regards to krammer and twitch...you have class and love your community and you deserve the better money . Dee's ratings may be up but let's remember that When WVGO and Howard Stern got kicked off the air...Howard's ratings were on the rise. Not too much longer i think before Bob (holier than thou art) Ukrop starts a anti XL102 stunt like he did with Howard and WVGO. Lucas it's good to have you back in the fold...to all take care and god bless all of us. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Why would Bobby Ukrop go after Dee Snider? Snider's show has neither the vulgar content (comparatively speaking), nor the notoriety for having vulgar content, that Stern's show does/did. (Snider accented that point several times in Ruggieri's Times-Disgrace profile of his show when it first hit Richmond.) Second, on a more cynical level, why would Ukrop be motivated to go after a show that does okay in the ratings but otherwise doesn't create much, if any, buzz around the city? Driving Stern out of Richmond in 1995-96, when Stern was still _really_ hot, still in his KOAM glory and all that, is one thing; driving out a two-bit show with hardly any brains, blood, or anima is another thing--like a waste of time. I can just hear the rallying cry: "Go back to Hartford, you perve. Well, sort of perve." | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Did you guys know that the lead singer of Drowning Pool died in Manassas yesterday? Well, FM99 acknowledged it yesterday and I think had let their listeners call in during Twitch's show yesterday evening. As of now, I haven't heard XL102 or Y101 do anything yet. Ozzfest is in Bristow today. I don't know what they'll do for him, but they'll definitely do something. They moved from the second stage to the main stage this year. I was trying to go up to the Nissan Pavillion but I don't know if its sold out or not. That really puts a damper on things. I'm surprised it didn't hit the Verizon Wiresless Virginia Beach Ampitheatre, but will go to smaller cities. And why doesn't XL play any Hatebreed, Godsmack, or Earshot? Is that out of the station's mainstream rock range? We truly need a real rock station to step up and play more new hard rock, like many other rock stations across the country. I think there are more active rock stations than mainstream rock stations, and there's a reason why: because it's today's rock. Hey Lucas: Do you think a 15-year-old kid would sit through blocks of LL Cool J and MC Hammer on Power 92? No. Do you think a 14-year-old girl would sit through blocks of Duran Duran and Culture Club on Q94? No. So why should a teenager who doesn't like that alternative music like The White Stripes and Jack Johnson, but likes P.O.D., Disturbed, and System of a Down have to sit through blocks of ZZ Top and Led Zeppelin? If you guys play all newer rock (from maybe the 90s to now), I'm pretty sure the ratings would go up. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
A) I talked about Dave Williams' death all last night while I was giving away OzzFest tickets and announcing that the show was still on. B) We play Godsmack, POD, Disturbed, and System of a Down, ect. But, Hatebreed and Earshot? No requests + No album sales ¹ Mainstream Rock. I'm sorry we don't play all of YOUR favorites; we don't play all of my favorites either. That's not our job. Our job is to play the Rock songs that are most commonly popular to adult men in the Richmond area. C) We aren't interested in teenagers; we target adults, 18-54. If we started targeting 14 year old girls, I'm pretty sure our ratings would go down. Sorry to sound so harsh, but it's fairly apparent that you weren't listening last night. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Oh, and those bands suck too. Godsmack? That's so 1999. Disclaimer: I'm really only joking. Please, no flames. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
What are you talking about? I didn't say anything about targeting 14 yr. old girls, those were just examples. My point was that I wouldn't think someone between the 18 to 34 (maybe a few in the 25-54 range, but 50% of them probably listen to 'KLR) age range would sit through old Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd songs just to hear their current favorites. And no, Y101 doesn't play them all either, because you have to sit through that horrible non-rock song by Jack Johnson ("Flake", it sounds like it should be on B103). I mean don't get me wrong, hearing Metallica, Nirvana, and classic Chilli Peppers is a plus, but anything from the mid 80s and back should be on 'KLR only, not on XL102. That's just my opinion. And besides, those songs are hot-in other markets. Earshot's "Get Away" is on the Mainstream Rock charts, according to Mediabase, and is on the Top 20 in Active Rock charts. Where is Creed's "One Last Breath" and Jerry Cantrell's "Anger Rising" on XL102's charts? Nowhere to be found, and the sad thing is they're coming to town this month, which has been heavily promoted by you guys. I thought you would at least play Creed's new song, seeing that Cantrell's song is a little out-dated. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
We do, over time, drop off bands that sound too dated. Uhriah Heap and Free spring to mind. I agree there are alot of songs that need to be weeded out. They will be, when the research points it out. Unfortunately, one of the losses in the consolidation era seems to be PDs with "ears." But, the fact remains that, men in Richmond are sitting through Led Zeppelin and George Thorogood. Hey, at least you don't have to put up with Bron-y-aur Stomp or (The Ballad of)Curtis Lowe any more. YEE HAW! XL doesn't have any "charts" per se, but we played "One Last Breath" and "Anger Rising" right out of the box. And we are playing more of both artists right now. | ||
| Anonymous |
While all of you argue whether XL102 will ever be an active rock station, Y101 is still being an active rock station. I am getting the impression that nobody here wants an active rock station. You just want XL102 to be an active rock station. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Back to the hot talk topic for a moment: I wonder if O&A's, uh, contest involving St. Patrick's Cathedral will have any effect on stations such as WHAN that would consider picking them up. There is tons of bluster going around now, especially in the NY media, that O&A/WNEW went too far. If Stern had problems here, imagine what the reaction would be for these guys in this conservative city. Then again, no one's heard of WHAN anyway, and maybe the O&A criticism will blow over. Any inside dope on whether they still might be coming to Richmond? | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Well, I guess we got our answer; O&A are gonzo, both from WNEW and from their WW1 syndication. Canceled, which iirc, means they'll still be paid but can't move on until the contract's up. Sorry, Mark, I know you liked them. As distasteful as that whole thing appeared, I'm sure there's been worse. But that's never a defense, anyway... | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
I can't believe it fellas. It had to come to this. It's kinda sad, because I was at Tysons Corner on Wednesday hoping for live O&A, but to no avail. Their has to be millions of disgruntled fans across the country right now, and I'm one of them. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
BTW, it's the friggin' talk of the town so to speak. Psycho Mark, a guy that used to work for the Opie & Anthony show but got fired after an incident happened during (hey, whaddya know) Sex For Sam 1 (they should've canned that career-ending contest a loooong time ago) will be on the O' Reilly Factor tonight. They have also been talked about on Crossfire, and have been in every newspaper possible. WNEW as a station is completely dead without O&A. Put it this way as far as Infinity's hot talk stations go: -LA (and other markets) has Tom Leykis -Chicago has Steve Dahl -Dallas has Russ Martin -Detroit has Deminiski & Doyle -New York City, Philadelphia, Cleveland, especially Boston, Buffalo and other markets has Opie & Anthony. If WW1 truly believed in either Don & Mike or Tom Leykis, they would've signed them to major deals. But they put their trust (and moolah) in the right duo-Opie & Anthony. Infinity knew that they could become the Stern of the new millenium because frankly, Stern is on his last legs. His material is thinning fast, and without Jackie, he has his guests, Artie Lange, and loudmouth Robin. That's alot, right? And as Ambulancechaser said, there has been much worse, and was done by someone under Infinity contract: the infamous Howard Stern. This guy scrutinzed the plane crashing at 14th Street, had a girl get off live on the radio, among MANY other things. And guess what: he's still "entertaining" millions each morning (though 80% of the time he's on vacation-yes, he's become that much of a slouch). And people are saying that sex wasn't even aired live on the radio. It's a shame Infinity spent all that money for nothing. I think over 10 million people across the country are saying these three words right now: bring back O&A! | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
I largely agree with what you wrote here, Mark, but I don't think Opie & Anthony were the "right" duo either. They were/are an undisciplined train wreck. I grew to find them funny at times this summer, but I remember thinking that if not for their management team aligning themselves right behind their posteriors, they'd get themselves in a lot of trouble. I guess I was wrong. The management went right down with them, although I hear Ken Stevens and Jeremy Coleman might not be altogether out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating that Don & Mike are/were the "right" duo, either; they've been pretty old men for a while, they're not NYC material, and they do whine at management much too much. But then, I don't think there is a "right" duo to succeed Stern. I've always thought he was essentially irreplaceable, and there's really no way O&A's uber-gutter act was going to rise to such a transcendent status anyway. I don't think 10 million people are saying "bring back O&A" right now. Their hardcores obviously are (I think there was an NYC rally for them), and if 500,000 to 1 million others are, they've done well. The people I feel truly sorry for are Ron & Fez. They do heavy lifting at WNEW, but there's no way that they can carry the whole format, right? And there have been rumors for a while that WNEW is going country, anyway...If so, those two are out, through no fault of their own. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Yeah, WNEW is a REAL big mess right now. If they would've kept Don & Mike (even though it had poor ratings, no promotion was there either) middays, then it would feel WNEW has more than just 2 shows. Back to Richmond: XL could have a new morning show by the end of the weeks, and the hot rumor is that it's gonna be Bubba The Love Sponge, a Tampa Bay shock jock based out of 98 Rock in Tampa. Dee Snider's home station in Hartford, Radio 104, says that "Connecticut radio will never be the same, Monday at 5," and involves Snider as well. Another rumor is that Snider will remain with the station, but in afternoons, and Bubba will still take mornings. | ||
| == (Lucas_Foxx) |
Anybody know where the Redskins' Sonny, Sam, and company radio PBP is going to land? | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
Hey stupid Lucas, Thor knows where the Redskins are, they are on at 105.7, they are now on a station that actually has listeners there Lucas, why do they have listeners, because they have talented people working there and not WaWa part timers like you. Thor has spoken, Thor is brave, Thor is wise, Thor was in your station last week Lucas, where were you? | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
Yes, an Urban Oldies (well Jammin' Oldies) Magic 105.7 (a R1 station) is home of the Redskins. Makes me feel like I'm listening to JFK. Also, Dee Snider is OUT at XL102. There is a god. Also, Bubba The Love Sponge is their replacement. Don't know when though. Lucas, what's the deal? | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
BTW, Bubba The Love Sponge is also the new morning man at Dee Snider's old flagship, Radio 104. http://www.allaccess.com/members/main/netnews/netnews.asp *MUST HAVE MEMBERSHIP-it's free -Also, would anyone doubt not to call O&A being "cancelled" the biggest radio story of the year? It's undoubtedly the biggest radio story of the year. Their buzz is at an all-time high, and they haven't been silenced. Everyone can tell they're not talking because they are holding out for something very big. O&A are masterminding something right now. I don't know what it is, but they've would be on Dateline, 60 Minutes, or even Nightline telling their story right now. It's not over between O&A and Infinity, I just have one of those gut feelings. Keyword: cancelled, not fired. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
Q: What did we learn today? A: Dee Snider's show sucked rocks. Anyway, why would the Redskins want their games on anything other than WRVA? Wouldn't they have a special interest in WRVA for their night games, considering 1140's vast coverage? And, yes, O&A is really that huge a story. Don't know if they'd work on "60 Minutes" or "Nightline," though. Their middle school quality grammar would work "more better" on Dateline NBC, methinks. | ||
| Mark (Mark) |
I take that back. XL102 isn't going with BTLS after all. It's too "extreme" for this market. We'll probably end up with Bob & Tom by the end of the year. | ||
| Frank_Dreben (Frank_Dreben) |
Bob & Tom?!? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I guess it's too much to ask to get a good local show. Wouldn't want CC to part with any more $$$ than they have to. | ||
| Ambulancechaser (Ambulancechaser) |
vartv.com mentioned that Elliot from DC101 is probably going to be syndicated and Richmond is a likely first destination. I can live with that. | ||
| Thor is Thor (Thor) |
"Anyway, why would the Redskins want their games on anything other than WRVA? Wouldn't they have a special interest in WRVA for their night games, considering 1140's vast coverage?" Hey Boy, the Redskins don't give a crap about the format of the station, they only care about who is paying them the most money to carry the games. Now Thor gives you permission to go back to running American Top 40. Thor has spoken, Thor is brave, Thor is wise, Thor is nuts. |